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Offline Leon Becker

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So we all know Julian Assange fights for free press and has declared war on censorship so it came as no surprise when Assange raised his head to attack Twitter for censoring the ISIS Twitter account.



It seems Assange has a double standard when it comes to censorship. We already know how many Wikileaks staffers have either left of been fired for criticizing Julians management of Wikileaks. We also know Assange has a long history of smearing, abusing and defaming journalists. Alan Green, James Ball and lets not forget Glenn Greenwald are just a few of thos that have been targetted by Assange hatred for free speech.

So it also came as no surprise when it became evident that Assange was trying everything in his power to silence the forum for not following his orders and allowing Wikileaks / Asange critics room to voice their views and opinions. This forum would not be a forum if we were forced to censor criticism so we remain obliged to uphold our mission statement even if it means being attacked.Freedom od speech must be the forums highest priority.

Assange's attacks on the forum started when the forum refused to hand over 15,000 e-mail Accounts to Wikileaks which requires no further discussion

We have been also been receiving reports that Assange is trying to get the forum removed by means of filing "criminal charges" against the forum owner, who's name we will not reveal. If this report is in fact true and our sources are reliable then Assange will have a lot of explaining to do. We vow to use ALL means available to make sure the Wikileaks discussion forum remains online. The forum will not close simply because Assange and his fanatics wants us censored.

Below we have outlined 4 major attempts by Assange to abuse, harass, slander, defame and smear the forum into submission, all of which have failed.

1. Failed Attempt - The Malware Warning job:

Assange launched his first attack at the forum was when he retweeted a "warning" message from one of the other Twitter accounts he controls. We are referring to this one:

@StjarnaFranfall aka @Marthagroup and now renamed again to @Hazelpress


Here is the original tweet that was RETWEETED by @Wikileaks just 6 minutes later



Of course, no evidence or proof was provided. Assange retweeted it without batting an eyelid. The forums response was swift and proved the accusation was nothing but a smear and a feeble attempot to defame the forum.






2. Failed Attempt - The Fake EMail Job:

After the first attack blew up in his face, a second attack was launched. This time the forums members were targetted with a fake email from wlfriends.org which belongs to Assange. ( "Friends of Wikileaks or FoWL )

Here is the mail that was sent to Wikileaks Forum members:


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Subject: Warning: The WikiLeaks Forum can not be trusted
From: Friends of WikiLeaks <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 15:27:11 +0200 (EET)


To: ***
 
Dear user,


You are contacted because you are still registered with wikileaks-forum.com. This is to warn you that this website can not be trusted. People joined this forum in the belief that they were becoming members of WikiLeaks’ official forum, a place to express and nurture their support. Regrettably, this is not true anymore.


The forum site owner lost the trust of WikiLeaks as he pursues his own agenda. Over the past few months, he openly turned against WikiLeaks. Several forum administrators and moderators have been replaced by new staffers who can not be considered as supporters of WikiLeaks. One of the forum’s co-founders turned out to be a paid FBI informant.


Some months ago, the forum staff decided to remove the "Syria Files" board from the forum claiming that the release of the Syria Files would "only support the destruction of an elected government resulting in the deaths of over 60,000 innocent Syrians." The forum staff blamed WikiLeaks for being "part of a propaganda war against a sovereign state" and repeatingly insinuated a connection between the Syria Files release and the deaths of civilians.


The forum staff aggressively attacks WikiLeaks on Twitter, frequently claiming to speak on behalf of the 15,000 registered forum users. The latest incident: In response to WikiLeaks’ extensive criticism of the upcoming anti-WikiLeaks movie "The Fifth Estate", the forum staff tweeted: "People aren’t stupid, they don’t need to be brainwashed by WikiLeaks."


WikiLeaks has publicly distanced itself from the forum and stated:


"The ’WikiLeaks Forum’ is not run or endorsed by WikiLeaks and has no connection to WikiLeaks whatsoever."


If you want to support WikiLeaks then stop supporting this forum.


It is strongly recommended not to trust the forum staff. Note that most staffers use several identities (e.g. Jerbar and Riney actually is one person). Be aware that ANY conversation with staffers is logged and kept for future use.


If you wish to keep informed on WikiLeaks related matters, there are several credible websites you can turn to, like This Day in WikiLeaks and WikiLeaks Press.


Regards,
Friends of WikiLeaks

All Assange and his acolytes had to do now was sit back and watch forum members leave, but alas, this didn't happen because unfortunately for Assange, his mail didn't speak for ALL "Friends of WikiLeaks (FoWL ) Groups "

FoWL USA made the following statement:


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"Open Apology from FoWL Facebook Group to WikiLeaks Forum Members

Recently there has been a very unsettling event that occurred on the WikiLeaks Forum that involved a group of rogue FoWL members that have issued false accusations towards that forum and it's staff.


The staff of this page which support the forum would like to use our right to freedom of speech to express our frustration with such attacks, as the forum is a place to discuss things about WikiLeaks/Assange either good or bad.

That freedom and flexibility is to some very ardent supporters of Assange disturbing if not sacrilege, and the forum receives ongoing attacks from these people from time to time.

In this case it involved the use of the FoWL name because the attack came from someone claiming to be Friends of WikiLeaks. The person who sent it claims to speak for ALL FoWL and we apologize on the behalf of FoWL as a whole for this unfortunate incident.

Let us not forget that WikiLeaks is an IDEA not a PERSON and freedom of speech is not owned or dictated by anyone. The idea of WikiLeaks was propagated by someone that rallied against the suppression of information by corrupt powers.

Let us not become what we originally fought against, we are all behind the idea of WikiLeaks, but some may feel the need to reconsider the path towards freedom of information on the way there. We have the right to do so."

That the author of this statement is affiliated to the forum makes no difference at all. The writer had formed FoWL USA before joining the Wikileaks forum.

Assange responded by claiming the non existence of FoWl USA




Once again, all efforts to smear and slander the forum blew up again in Assange's face. The disappointment and frustration amongst Assange's fanatics was noticeable as seen in this tweet. It also came as no surprise that one of Assange's henchmen and chief programmer Leon Becker, aka Cabledrum was involved:




Deeply saddened that this second attempt failed, a new strategy had to be found.




3. Failed Atttempt - The Forum is "Harvesting EMails Job:


It didn't take long untill Assange, now in dire need of money, tried a last ditch attempt to gain access to the forums members email data with the intention of spamming them with requests for donations. The forum had already been told that $1.000.000 was needed to keep Wikileaks up and ruuning.
In a chat with the forums admin,Assange demanded the forum hand over ALL 15.000 EMail addresses of its members, a demand which we refused.

Of course, Assange's reaction was predictable:




As absurd as these accusation may see, a response was need to counter Assange's attempts to slander the forum. To do this we need proof and so the decision was made to publish the entire, unedited chat log between the forum and Wikileaks:

Here is an except from the chat, the full chat log can be found here: --> http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rpieru

(10:02:16 PM) FORUM: I know its ridiculous but even more ridiculous to remark that I dont want to do this for some " odd reason ". The odd reason is that I would be breaking the law giving 15.000 e mail addresses away

 (10:02:29 PM) FORUM: what do you mean by a " huge lump " ?
 (10:03:03 PM) @jabber.ccc.de: *jump
 (10:06:34 PM) FORUM: okay.....how about me sending ALL 15.000 members an invite to join FoWL ?. Isn't this why you want the e mail addresses ?

 (10:07:28 PM) FORUM: wouldnt this be a fair idea ?

 (10:12:54 PM) FORUM: if you want, you can write the invite and I will send it to every member on the forum ...

 (10:14:45 PM) FORUM: i will see if such a thing is possible.
 (10:15:26 PM) FORUM: sure,,, I mean...if you only want to invite them to FoWL then why not do it with me NOT in jail for breaking the law ;-)

 (10:29:31 PM) @jabber.ccc.de: what bit makes you think you would be breaking the law? what are forum terms and conditions?

 (10:30:55 PM) FORUM:the forum is hosted in XXXXXX. It is illegal to forward e mail to 3rd parties if not specifically granted by the user at registration

 (10:31:06 PM) @jabber.ccc.de: k
 (10:31:27 PM) FORUM: I cant forward IP addresses, location or e mail addresses without prior permission from user

So Assange's slander and defamation campaign commenced, further panic tweets were made by Assange




Needless to say, this attempt also blew up in Assange's face. The prospect of the Forum gaining strength and defending off attacks lead to Assange's final meltdown. The only method left was to order a full d0x of forum staff members which would hopefully harass them into retirement.




4.Failed Attempt - D0xing the forum.

Getting people to do his dirty work is an #Assange speciality.He knows how not to get his hands dirty so all he had to do was ask his programmer Leon Becker ( @cabledrummer ) do create a full d0x of forum staff members. Eager to get more involved with Assange, Becker eagerly agreed. Becker spent night after night gathering names, addresses, birthdates, employers, email addresses and jabber names to satisfy Assange. He must have driven 500 miles from Berlin to Frankfurt to make photographs of forum members that were participating in an event organized by the forum to protest the killings of dolphins in Taiji, Japan.

Once the dox was compiled, Leon Becker reported to Assange and provided him with the d0x URL: https://www.cabledrum.net/news/wlf_whoiswho
Assange instantly TWEETED ( not retweeted ! ) the d0x, sat back, crossed his fingers and hoped for the best:




Apart from trhe fact that most of the information is wrong, the d0x has had NO effect on the forum, in fact quite the opposite.Forum traffic has risen 35 %. Servers stats show 15.000 URLs linking to the forum.

Therefore - Damage result: ZERO


The bottom line is:

Next time you see Assange tweeting this






or this:








then please keep in mind that not everything that glistens, is gold ;-)

Linkback: http://www.wikileaks-forum.com/-wikileaks-related-news/23/assange-attempts-to-censor-the-wikileaks-forum-for-allowing-critics-a-voice/30588/


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For years now Assange has been anti WikiLeaks Forum. His attempts to disgrace it has only lead to him disgracing himself.  On the world stage, WikiLeaks has been in decline. It no longer speaks to a general population wanting to improve the world, but more radicalized groups trying to dominate parts of it. WikiLeaks(completely dictated by Julian Assange) has all but become as corrupt as the forces it originally fought against.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage" Anais Nin .. and yet we must arm ourselves with fear

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Last crazy development: the @wikileaks_forum twitter account suspended!

Julian Assange acts to censor the WikiLeaks Forum Twitter account...
http://www.wikileaks-forum.com/the-critics/632/julian-assange-acts-to-censor-the-wikileaks-forum-twitter-account/30908/#.U9amjQGDVKY.twitter

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lol.... forum isnt ISIS!
forum does not fit into Assange terrorism support.

free speech is not allowed in the anus-caliphate ;)

Assange fears the Pigeon.

https://goo.gl/QjIHja

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Maybe my brain isn't compartmentalizing all the same intangible mess all this has become as well as some others manage to do so, and for any of my ignorance that might truly be bliss, I apologize, but *?

Realistically now, there are TWO SIDES to every story, TWO SIDES to every ASS (I would hope so, or there is only one side beside a CRACK), and for God's sake, a CRITICS area on a forum will come between all the lines on it whether it is categorized as a specific topic or not.

So, is the Assange critics area on the forum really an INVITATION to criticize Assange, or just a place to put all the criticism in one special place where it is more easily or readily accessible without a search or dig for that criticism?

Why would Julian Assange really be concerned with a critics area on this forum? Somebody has to be kidding right?

LOLO! =)

GOD FORBID THE LIGHTS GO OUT and a zillion brains have to be retrained to function in manual reality.

Does anyone else get the idea that the tweets on the WL account are starting to sound a little like someone is bathing in a bird bath, eating bird food & possibly smoking bird * in his own sphere??

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"Why would Julian Assange really be concerned with a critics area on this forum? Somebody has to be kidding right?"


 I wish it was joke, but unfortunately it is not. Still I do not feel as a member of the forum that we are being singled out as critics of Assange. Assange attacks anybody and any form of media that criticizes him. All books, all movies/documentaries, all web sites, and even a large grass roots support group from his homeland [email protected] that had fought long and hard on his behalf, certainly much harder than this forum ever did. He completely dropped them and claimed they were a fraud because of post by the group that allowed a critic(his very own mother) to express her side of the whole WikiLeaks Party debacle.

 What I find so sick is how many of the die hard worshipers of Assange think that by association to him that they are a part of some elite powerful force. Assange has turned on ANYONE that does not serve his personal needs, his mother, his girlfriend, close partners, etc....so if any of these cultist ever stepped out of line they would get dumped and disgraced too. These worshipers have expressed their idolization so complete in their actions, I am starting to wonder if it is not out of some deep fear. They must know that he would turn on them in a heartbeat, and that has them idolizing him so radically, just like all the other cult followers that we have read about throughout the past...

« Last Edit: August 02, 2014, 17:34:31 PM by Riney »
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Thank you Riney for your well thought out response.

The reason I asked why JA would be concerned with a 'critics hole' on this forum is because any logical mind would believe that JA has better things to do than 'swat flies' in cyberspace, on a forum, when he himself, much to his majesty, should realize as HIS MAJESTY that he is in the public limelight. Just what he has always wanted and now he is swatting flies around him on one level, not realizing maybe that the biggest pieces of crap are coming from the big bugs swarming the above the flies.

Surely he should be swatting other things.

I truly consider your statement when you say "What I find so sick is how many of the die hard worshipers of Assange think that by association to him that they are a part of some elite powerful force."


That statement cannot be made up, it has to be realized before it is put in to words. There is no genius with the ability to make up even a character from a book like this, UNLESS he has experienced it deeply enough to describe it...thus, to me it is believable being said by you.

Narcissm is a many mirrored thing. He sounds narcisstic to me...harmless and even admirable until ....

Thing is these kinds of narcissts are capable of perpetuating the smallest of their talents, thus perpetuating much admiration from those who are needy of the illusions and deslusions of those talents, because perhaps even those admirers are attracted to the illusion of sanity because they have known none thus far and those individuals are in for one short fall.

Just sayin. =)

GOD FORBID THE LIGHTS GO OUT and a zillion brains have to be retrained to function in manual reality.

Does anyone else get the idea that the tweets on the WL account are starting to sound a little like someone is bathing in a bird bath, eating bird food & possibly smoking bird * in his own sphere??

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Assange's mission to silence and defame this forum is still ongoing. His latest tweet "warns" his followers that the forum was created by a "confessed FBI Agent"

Lie Nr. 1. ) Sigurdur Thordarson was not a "FBI Agent" but Wikileaks staffer in charge of Wikileaks operations
Lie Nr. 2.)  The forum was NOT created by Sigurdur Thordarson.The forum was created by ex owner Mark Goeder-Tarant

Well it seems Assange's Twitter followers don't bother reading his tweets as only 7 (!) from 2.5 million followers retweeted it

Here is the Tweet and URL:




https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/496709701933871105

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The forum was CREATED by a 'confessed FBI Agent'?  Confessed?

LOLO! and ROLO in unison.

Sigurdur Thordarson was not EVER and agent for the FBI from what I understand, but a person the FBI may have used to get information on WikiLeaks owner JA. 

WHY TWEET that this forum was created by a "CONFESSED FBI AGENT'?? The implication and truth is wrong. Whoever is composing the tweets for WL needs to watch their language and meaning altogether. Just sayin.... =)
GOD FORBID THE LIGHTS GO OUT and a zillion brains have to be retrained to function in manual reality.

Does anyone else get the idea that the tweets on the WL account are starting to sound a little like someone is bathing in a bird bath, eating bird food & possibly smoking bird * in his own sphere??

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"thus perpetuating much admiration from those who are needy of the illusions and deslusions of those talents,"


 I completely agree. I believe Assange promised way too much, and it would be those cultist that are the most needy of the illusions of a utopia that he promised. What he promised was unrealistic and grandiose.

 Also it was Assange that pulled in that "confessed FBI Agent" and even after warning by WikiLeaks staffers to get Siggi out, it was Assange that kept him in against everyone's advice... as per ex WikiLeaks staffer in the forum post here...


http://www.wikileaks-forum.com/the-critics/632/assanges-3-stooges-scramble-to-attack-the-guardians-james-ball/30884/


 He said the froze Siggi out of WL while he was there, because everyone was concerned by him, it was Assange that pulled him back in.... Opps!

 I am pretty sure that Birgitta also said so as well.

« Last Edit: August 06, 2014, 19:40:25 PM by Riney »
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@Elaine

 That is funny now that I think about it. Siggi was NEVER an actual FBI "agent", far from it. He cooperated with FBI agents at one point, but of course he himself was never an agent. He would have actually had to have graduated from and FBI academy, taken the FBI oath, etc...

 Also Siggi did not create this forum. It was already up and running before Julian Assange sent Siggi to the forum as an attempt to control the content of the forum in his own personal self promotional agenda.

 What I find also so ironic, is it was Siggi's ability to do covert operations that Julian Assange was so in need of. It was also that ability of Siggi to do covert things that allowed him to turn against Assange and cooperate with the FBI... Ha Ha Ha!

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage" Anais Nin .. and yet we must arm ourselves with fear

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What I find also so ironic, is it was Siggi's ability to do covert operations that Julian Assange was so in need of. It was also that ability of Siggi to do covert things that allowed him to turn against Assange and cooperate with the FBI... Ha Ha Ha!  -Riney

As they say, give a man a rope and he will hang himself using his own knots.

Siggi used his ability in the end to protect himself I believe. And he should have. =)

GOD FORBID THE LIGHTS GO OUT and a zillion brains have to be retrained to function in manual reality.

Does anyone else get the idea that the tweets on the WL account are starting to sound a little like someone is bathing in a bird bath, eating bird food & possibly smoking bird * in his own sphere??

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I don´t get why Julian is always playing her FBI card??

Well, it seems like that in his world the FBI must be a very evil badass organisation, and everyone around him, connected to him in any way must avoid the FBI and sees it as pure Evil too.

But don´t get me wrong, why should people have fear from the FBI, I mean yea sometimes they do some strange stuff like all other agencys, but at least most of them do normal work to keep America (and the world) a safer place.

This "FBI" card - just shows how paranoid his world is!

into the fridge!!

Assange fears the Pigeon.

https://goo.gl/QjIHja

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Julian Assange likes to play the FBI card a lot. He tries to create a more evil image of them than they really are. Most people in the entire world live their lives without being concerned or affected by the FBI. There may be the occasional issue with someone that was not a full blown hardened criminal, but more a victim of really bad circumstances, that fell prey to the FBI. But I would consider that a small fraction of who the FBI affect in the whole.

 It is to Assange's advantage to convince people that the FBI a fully unlawful and evil, to create an "us against them" atmosphere of fear. As a further insult, he then accuses his critics of being FBI so that his worshiping idiots will then attack these people. He is not only paranoid, he is fully self serving to boot!

« Last Edit: August 12, 2014, 17:09:59 PM by Riney »
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yep,

this is not even in the wikileaks world, it is also in the Anonymous World.
I don´t think we need a "against the whole system" we need a better together and transparency in some cases.
What we do not need is the WikiLeaks "all your pants are down now" movement.

I think it is good to keep in mind, that most of those Agents, etc. living on the same planet like all of us. doing their job with errors, like all of us. Julian Assange´s FBI-Card is just another proof how one-sided his world-view is.

Minds are like parachutes, they work best when open.
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