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Offline liloleme

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Re: Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2015, 03:42:22 AM »
They prefer psychopaths.

I totally disagree with that point. do you ever have been seen or heard about an job interview, for US Agency´s from FBI to CIA and etc?
You have to go through multiple assessments, tests. it´s one of the hardest jobs to get an place at such an agency´s academy. this people are no psychopaths at all. the selection of individuals is a very long process.

also talking about spies.

A spy is someone who works for an foreign intelligence Service in his country e.g. A Russian working for the CIA is a spy. A person working at CIA Headquarter is an officer.
A very good book I have from the CIA´s famous list of books ( :) ) - about how spying worked in the past (and still today) The Main Enemy: The Inside Story of the CIA's Final Showdown with the KGB - besides those boring wikileaks books where one guy with no idea about how spying works (yes Julian Assange knows zero about spying he just owns documents he sells in a book later..) this is a real worth a look. written from people who have the knowledge.

Off course a spy can be a psychopath and everything you know about your asset can be useful. but it´s not that every person connected to an intelligence service is a psychopath.

the reason for this is. We All would be dead today. Died long ago in a nuclear war which those spies, officers, (we will never know their names. they mostly end up as a star on wall), prevented in the midst of the cold war.
  

I may or may not have been a student to become one in a western country.  I may or may not have pulled out because I personally do not have the stomach for it.  I may or may not have personally met at least ten people that work intimately in the field ranging from being a private contractor for companies, security for Hilary Clinton upon her visit and the secret service from my country.  I have an idea, but it does appear to be a blanket statement.  I note that once you begin to have the knowledge of what spies should be trained in, you begin to have interesting conversations because of that common interest and draw the likes of those people in your circle.  

I do however retract the blanket statement as you are right; not all spies can be psychopaths or we would all be dead. The psychopathic flaw is competence and there is only so much coercion one can do to mask the lack of competence.   
I will read that book as suggested. 

I do note that Valerie Plame provided an insight into the training and entry for the CIA in her book.  She refers to the Myers Briggs testing as being accepting of mostly ENTJ, which is not a psychopathic personality trait.  However they do not cover all job titles in the workforce.  Spies are listed among the top professions for psychopaths as the work attracts them.  Kevin Dutton makes this claim and naturally so.  Its almost a psychopaths dream profession.

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Re: Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2016, 13:42:55 PM »
following the Panama Papers there are rumors about their origin. some say the west is behind some say the Russians are behind. but what´s interesting are the following lines. it´s totally up to you how to interpret that. these days many people are inspired by "the good guys"..



read the full text here:
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/07/putin-dismisses-panama-papers-as-an-attempt-to-destabilise-russia?CMP=share_btn_tw


The Russian word for "espionage tradecraft" is konspiratsiya (yes, conspiracy). @20committee

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Re: Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2016, 16:56:00 PM »
"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage" Anais Nin .. and yet we must arm ourselves with fear

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Re: Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2016, 02:59:45 AM »
There was an interesting point brought up on Twitter today. From a statement made during an interview of Edward Lucas by journalist and author Michael Weiss.

"[the Russians] would have put [#Snowden] in touch with someone from the #Wikileaks or hacker milieu"

In this statement , it is interesting to ponder how Assange, Snowden, and Sarah Harrison could all have been played as pawns in this game.

Thinking about how Snowden can be seen in the movie CitzenFour being a little over zealous about leaking secrets of the U.S. Government ... At one point he speaks of Laura Poitras and by default himself ... "drooling " over one of the documents they were about to leak. It speaks of people that are more passionate about being famous for leaking, than people repressed by some over suppressive government.

So the FSB, who makes it their business to know as many secrets of opposing governments as it can, what would they have thought of people feverish to leak as much US Government secrets as they can... They would have been all over it.

Assange has shamelessly let himself be known as a full Putin puppet. I think he admires Putin's corruption, feeling like dictatorships are the real way governments should be run. There is without a doubt plenty of use to be made of Assange by the FSB. They barely would have to exert any effort... Assange would jump at any chance to help in the leaking of US government secrets.

Sarah Harrison was sent by Assange to latch on to Snowden in his hour of need as best she could. Assange's fame was fading, his legal situation looking more ridiculous every day. Donations were falling, they desperately needed to align themselves somehow with a new "hero" figure. They succeeded .
 
Assange has erected statues of himself, Snowden, and Manning all together in a ploy to elevate his martyr status. Sarah Harrison has become the administrator of the subsequently formed Courage Found Fund that collects donations for a pool of leakers. This helps distance the collection of funds away from the public perception that they were being used for Assange's messy legal fees from sex misconduct allegations .

All the while, could this be all orchestrated by the FSB? I could totally see it now.
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Re: Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2016, 14:10:16 PM »
"[the Russians] would have put [#Snowden] in touch with someone from the #Wikileaks or hacker milieu"

one of that contacts pretty sure was Jacob Applebaum. He is one of that guys that is also driven by personal feelings and hate towards the USG. I saw him one day writing something like "If you would know how they interrogated my mother..." in a interview he gave a magazine he also talks about his life and his thoughts about his drunk and drugs addicted dad. this is something to keep in mind. I am not saying it is an "mother complex" but also see him talking about "how many girls" he had in his life is an dot. normally something you do not share with the outside world. but it´s a phenomena being very strong in the "hackers-world".

you also knew there was an NSA leak on it´s way after you saw them talking about the NSA´s Utah Data Center (go youtube) on the CCC Event in late 2012.
http://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2012/29c3-not-my-department

If there are only Russians behind that leaks you cannot tell. we also have China, Iran, Pakistan, even the Saudis in that game of spies.
(From what I know the Saudis are very pissed off at the moment...)

Russia of course is an master of konspiratsiya and espionage tradecraft was a huge part of the Snowden documents. But these docs now becoming old and even leaking seems to become a more outdated. guess there have been a lot of "lessons learned" by the IC during the past years :-).


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Re: Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2016, 11:46:27 AM »
Our Jules just doing his stuff on the front for his Kremlin friends. Ukraine wins in Sweden for the Embassy guy is just like a hell on earth for him. off course he smells, besides the litter box poo poo where he is doing his stuff, a huge conspiracy.

I am just leaving this here =)

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Re: Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2016, 13:11:53 PM »
interesting development on the way about  Jacob Applebaum at the moment. underlines my thoughts two posts above :-)
also his involvement in Snowden-Op gets much more bigger Q´s at the moment.

looks like there is a lot strange stuff upcoming about Eric and his friends. you gotta have your pants on truth?
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Re: Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2016, 18:50:38 PM »
If WikiLeaks is a front for the Russian GRU, then the United States is a front for the Queen of England in the drug cartel operations as fully protected by offshore account business consultants. This then becomes not just the issue of macroeconomics "guns for butter" but rather it is to not kill the messenger who relays the accounts of those canaries and pigeons assigned to do the dirty bidding for those fronts operatives.

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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2016, 19:15:21 PM »
interesting. 
welcome to the Forum :-)
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2016, 19:11:27 PM »
wow looks like my post before wasn´t that wrong nor right but it just emerges what an sociopath Jacob Applebaum really is. There is a chatlog on the internet you will get deep insights into his mind. the jake himself claims to have ended the war in iraq together with wikileaks. I mean people. really?!

  • < ioerror> I shut down the city of san francisco to stop the war
  • 22:15 < DaveC1> ioerror: It is the greatest shame of my life that I participated.
  • 22:15 < ioerror> I think that we should not discuss this in detail
  • 22:15 < DaveC1> ioerror: Did it? Stop the war?
  • 22:16 < ioerror> later with wikileaks, i did help end the iraq war
  • 22:16 < ioerror> and so, yes, we did as much as anyone has done so


he is also as paranoid as Assange as not if much more.

  • 23:01 < ioerror> I was followed by FBI people under cover in berlin.
  • 23:01 < ioerror> I have their fingerprints.
  • 23:01 < ioerror> If i disclose them and their names, I would go to jail.
  • 23:01 < ioerror> Even if they're done now.

but it gets much better read the whole logs, pretty nice insights into the leaking cult. buzzwords a lot. dots to connect. have fun.
http://pastebin.com/WPAmqkW8
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Re: Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2017, 21:24:28 PM »
Oh hey forum peeps and readers. as this Topic is called:

Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence


yep that´s hurting in lala-wikiland I just wanna point out after Russian Hacks into USA´s election and electing Putin buddy Trump Assange is now going for his next GRU assigned target. oh did I say GRU? 


On Tuesday, its Twitter account promoted 3,630 documents from its archives on center-right presidential candidate François Fillon.

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According to Martin Michelot, the deputy director of Europeum, “there is definitely concern” that WikiLeaks will try to influence the French election. During the U.S. election, WikiLeaks served as a central dumping ground for Russian operatives, according to American intelligence officials.



http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/01/wikileaks-turns-its-attention-to-the-french-elections/
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Re: Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2017, 19:24:00 PM »
OK. I am happy for all those following this exposing Thread about Wikileaks and Julian Assange since last year. and I just want to put some info here:

The WikiLeaks hacking saga:

Strafor being hacked by WikiLeaks neurotic hacker-kids in 2012
soon after the Syria Mails have been hacked and released where this forum started distancing itself from the Russian Fraud Assange
(side note: paranoid Assange locked all accounts related to joyce in the end he was so depressed he just dumped all mails because to many accounts the idiot had to lock.)

The Saga continued and Wikileaks kept leaking hacked stuff. (THEY ALSO had some NSA material which many think of that the call is coming straight from inside the house)
As the Snowden Operation started and little green men took over Ukraine´s Crimea and some drunken Russian air force members shot done a passenger plane the shit was getting hot in this spy-wars. Ukraine was some kind of test environment for the coming attacks on foreign politics. Maidan was just the begin of an wider attack and sadly just a test to push forward an malign agenda.

Text messages warn Ukraine protesters they are 'participants in mass riot'

Wikileaks proofed since then itself as just an arm of (many) foreign intelligence Agency´s cloaked in the name of Transparency. 

But this time Assange and his brigade of brainless followers failed to push another candidate his masters would have love to see in place. 
Assange will not stop to get his head out of the asses he stuck it into. no matter what the costs will be.

Wikileaks is compromised. always was and always will be.
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Re: Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2017, 16:03:08 PM »
WikiLeaks

TheShadowBrokers

who on earth is putting so much effort in just writing a name of a criminal group if not this guy?



That´s why:

Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence
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Re: Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2017, 12:21:03 PM »
As you can notice right now in the Media trusting a Russian Front like Wikileaks run by a rapist on holidays does not end well if you´re in bed with shadowy groups.

The pigeons are watching the rats fleeing the sinking ship!

don´t get paranoid if you look around :-X // 

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Re: Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2017, 10:47:09 AM »
Wikileaks will soon start another batch of CIA documents to release. This comes just in time as the investigation into Trump deepens. 
Remember these rules of Russian dezinformatsiya. 

  • Today’s disinformation is aimed at distracting the viewers
  • Russia is currently waging an all out war against the West — an information war
  • The Kremlin has perfected the art of mixing entertainment with emotional manipulation

Disinformation is always used with a mix of emotional manipulation and true facts. Wikileaks is not your friend nor an ally or anything else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dFORbe7Gc0
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