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Howard Bourne

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Anatomy of a Forum Troll - The Story of @greekemmy
« on: December 17, 2013, 22:17:08 PM »
Forum trolls, those pesky little rascals that constantly beg for attention by raising their ugly heads above the crowd in order to be noticed. They find satisfaction in feeding off other peoples lives, a grmmmph!tail of jealousy and insecureness. Their own lives are mostly dull and boring and to compensate for their own lack uselessness they troll.

Trolls aren't couragious or brave, they are cowards can only operate from behind their comptuer screens because this is where they feel safe. They are lonely lost souls without vision or goals.

Greekemmy ( also known as " Green " ) used to be a moderator on this forum and spent her spare time devoting herself to her Idol Julian Assange. Unfortunately this devotion turned into blindness and rage once she became aware that the forum wasn't prepared to censor critique aimed at her idol. She also felt it was her duty to judge other Assange supporters by seperating the sick from the healthy. During one of her countless visits to the Ecuador Embassy in London, she complained about certain supporters she thought weren't worthyof suporting Julian Assange. Below is an except from a mail she send to the Forum:

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Twice I have been concerned that people that may come and hover about as supporters (and indeed they might be) are not the most mentally stable, one lady Bea (you can find her in twitter-she follows me, also a forum member) who I saw on the 30th at the supreme court and also on Wednesday at the embassy and again today has explained to me that she has been diagnosed with depression by her psychiatrist and when I suggested "maybe you should not be here then..." "she was adamant "I must be here" . Then she did not want to have her picture taken as she was on a sick note from her work because of her condition (she is wearing the anonymous mask in today's photos that I sent you). Also again today, a chap called Adam explained to me how he is working in intelligence for Anonymous, spying at what the intelligence services are doing (??!!), coming from Bristol and that he had taken part in Occupy at St.Paul's and how the British Police released the Crazies and the sex offenders onto the Occupy St Paul ("go there and you'll be fed") movement to break it up so that families had to leave to protect their children and the quarrels they kept having there and people using the steps of St Paul's for toilets (he is also in today's pictures...) frankly it sounded like he was repeating things he had either read or watched on TV rather than his own experiences...(in the TWT occupy episode for example) All very strange I thought.

Of course the majority of the people I came accross were not like this at all but it just made me think of what you have often brought to our attention at the forum about this issue of people with mental problems being attracted to forum world/WL. I guess it is one thing to have them at the forum and FB pages... another to thing to come accross them among the supporters especially in such a visible place so close to JA.


Another visit to the Embassy to watch Julian hold a speech from the balcony was enough for @greekemmy to break down in tears.



Soon after this incident, she started to bully, harrass and abuse other forum members if she felt they were " criticizing " her Idol. On more than one occasion, she deleted members posts or tried to edit them. When questioned as to why she took such action, she exclaimed " Julian is our leader and we should OBEY him " This of course, was alarming to most forum staff members but no further action was taken.

The next day @greekemmy decided to take matters into her own hands and attempted to hijack the Forums twitter account. Here are screenshots of her tweets: ( note, "the forum is being controlled" )






It was only when she tried to edit the twitter account's e mail address did she realize that her attempt to hijack the account was doomed.




So it all went wrong for @greekemmy and the Forums twitter account was recovered and after a phone call with her, her accounts were both deleted.

As time passed by @greekemmy's pain and frustration grew into blind hate. Her dedication turned into blind devotion and the blind devotion lead to destruction.

Obviously, she thought the forum would die without her, but this never happened. The forum carried on. Business as usual, but the forums success just fueled her hatred and we can only guess that this lead her to believe she was on some kind of " Mission " for Julian to destroy the forum.

So without much ado, we have collected some of @greekemmy's all time favorite troll tweets to highlight her downfall from a dedicated WikiLeaks supporter to a blind Assange cultist follower.










Here she is mentioning the names of staffs children. She will stop at NOTHING









Even a simple call from the forum looking for translators was enough to turn @greekemmy's little World upside down




She even accused forum admins of EMBEZZLEMENT. The matter was reported to the London Police as well as WikiLeaks Spokesman Kristinn Hrafnsson who replied as follows

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HiWL has never accused anyone for aiding Sigurdur Thordarsson in his theft from the organization. He acted alone and breached the trust of other volunteers and staff.
You can quote me on that.
Tell the girl to retract this from Twitter and apologise.
best

SO the trolling continued






Baking cakes for Julian is painstaking process








But thankfully she has a small group of fans that Support her when she in on "overload ". Yes it's hard work being a cultist :-( What a hero !











Dont Forget that her cakes are her pride and joy. Don't EVER mention her cakes in Twitter or you will be in TROUBLE !









and I mean BIG Trouble. The DRAMA !......Isis, how could u do this to me....my CAKE !!!!







After the "cake affair ", the conspiracies never end ..





In the meantime, @greekemmy decided to Register a new account on our forum ( she lost interest in the other forum after 36 Posts )







Sorry Emmy, we had to ban your new accont too






But have no fear, @greekemmy even pats herself on the back by using her second sock puppet account to talk to herself






Oh well, when all else fails, just try begging the forums hoster to take the forum down for "Spamvertising ". Of course, she never thought of providing any proof.




We did Forget to mention that @greekemmy has already had 2 other sock puppet accounts suspended by Twitter for abusing and harrassing members of the forum. We will continue to report her tweets if we think they abuse Twitter guidelines. Please remember, it isn't WE who suspends accounts, it's Twitter

@greekemmy has managed to use her computer skills and courage to post ALL private information including names, addresses, telephone numbers, private e mail accounts, lists of websites, IP addresses, staffs childrens names and photographs of staff members in an attempt to harrass and terrorize staff members of the forum.

To save bandwidth, time and effort, this will be all for now. Of course the forum has more goodies stowed away but we think it's best to save them for a rainy day

So we dedicate this post to @greekemmy. Have a wondefull xmas and a happy new year.

Note** All Images in this post are have been posted in public

Linkback: http://www.wikileaks-forum.com/atgreekemmy-aka-emilia-butlin/634/anatomy-of-a-forum-troll-the-story-of-atgreekemmy/26119/

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Re: Anatomy of a Forum Troll - The Story of @Greekemmy
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2013, 22:23:10 PM »
Wow, thanks for posting, that totally sums up the issue of the Forum's trolls. :-)

 On a lighter note, I would like to point out that there are some very supportive members of ours that do see through all of this and speak the truth... I saw this tweet today and I think it really helps clear up some of the fog these trolls try to create...

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@SandraEckersleyRead @WikiLeaksSForum to see how hopelessly they are just a pawn of Julian #Assange. Try @wikileaks_forum for REAL balance & debate. #auspol

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage" Anais Nin .. and yet we must arm ourselves with fear

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Re: Anatomy of a Forum Troll - The Story of @greekemmy
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 19:36:01 PM »
Well..

I can understand if someone felt in love with somebody, sure.

But I can not believe that this behavior is endorsed by many other Twitter People. It is one part if you don´t like free speech, the forum or whatever.

Another is, posting names of children online - means attacking someone over innocent people that have nothing to do with us.

I can not believe that this sort of behavior is wanted by WikiLeaks and the whole crew.

peace.

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Re: Anatomy of a Forum Troll - The Story of @greekemmy
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2014, 18:27:14 PM »
The saga continues... Recently the forums new interest in promoting a great cause to help save dolphins by Sea Shepard has caught her eye, and she is now focusing on defaming the forum for somehow profiteering from helping the cause?? Which for all intense purposes would not be monetarily possible in my opinion.

 I will not post the link to her forum hate blog here because it deserves no promotion. But from reading the blog entry, I get the creeping feeling that Emmy must read the forum front to back all the time. She is obsessed. I do not think that she has a very far reach. I can not imagine any normal person reading her material for the first time without knowing any of her background, thinking that what she was saying is true.

 She writes with a pure underlying hatred that is evident in every point that she makes. She tells the reader that we called her a "cultist" like that was something so hard to believe. Well guess what, the Assange cult is something that is very real AND a known entity. Assange has turned on so many well intended supporters by now, that it is known that the only ones left that fully buy into him are purely fanatic.

 The only people that would read her material and actually believe it would be other cult members. It certainly will not be Sea Shepard and other animal rights groups. Any of them can see how much reach we are getting for their cause.

 What I think is the most disgusting thing is that she is putting the need to protect Assange's image OVER the needs of those animals to have their rights protected by writing that blog entry. Assange being the user of people that he has shown to be time and time again, will eventually dump her when she screws up somehow. It is only a matter of time.
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Re: Anatomy of a Forum Troll - The Story of @greekemmy
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2014, 12:29:46 PM »
I see something from her every couple of months, and on each of those scarce occasions I wonder if we'll live to see the day when Emilia starts supporting WikiLeaks or admits that truly she has not grasped the concept of it and thus can't do anything other than admire its glorious leader - whatever comes first.
I do wish she'd stop using WikiLeaks as a pretence for her very personally motivated tampering though. I'm aware this is by no means uncommon, neither for her and her lot nor in general - but that doesn't make it any less wrong and unfortunate :-/

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Re: Anatomy of a Forum Troll - The Story of @greekemmy
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2014, 12:51:37 PM »
These guys are Anti-WikiLeaks actually as they totally miss respect for the principals of the organization: http://wikileaks.org/About.html

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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2014, 12:56:23 PM »
At this point, they are and she is, yes. Emilia did not always appear to be so though, and I do not want to be unfair in insinuating that she never supported WikiLeaks in the first place.

From the look of things, it seems like she used to try and be a WikiLeaks supporter and then something happened to her. Something else preoccupied her mind so much that she forgot all about WikiLeaks' principles and eventually turned on them for the sake of something that seems to be of greater importance to herself - God knows what that is though, I can't make any sense of her. Sadly enough, this happened to several others.

It brings me back to an old post of mine, http://www.wikileaks-forum.com/-wikileaks-related-news/23/opinion-taking-a-closer-look-at-cyberbullying-cyberstalking-and-radicalization/24533/msg55164#msg55164
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Re: Anatomy of a Forum Troll - The Story of @greekemmy
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2014, 13:58:59 PM »
In a phone call one day in  2012, Emmy told me that she "cried tears of joy " when she saw Assange making his speech from the balcony of the Ecuador Embassy in London. She also complained about some of the supporters who she regarded as " mentally unstable " and didn't have the right to be regarded as " Assange Supporters ". She also informed another admin that her husband ( Benjamin ) once asked her if she was " in love with Julian " and she just blushed instead of answering.

A PM sent to admins also announced the " Julian is our leader and must be obeyed "

Oh well *shrugs*

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Re: Anatomy of a Forum Troll - The Story of @greekemmy
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2014, 19:07:18 PM »
On a couple of other threads when the subject of being anti WikiLeaks came up, I concluded in my opinion two types of WikiLeaks supporters....

     " There are supporters that were drawn to WikiLeaks by what the organization stood for. The freedom of information and the use of that information to be able to expose corruption. The ability of the information to be given to the public so that it would be better informed when making decisions about the purity of governments. The governments in turn would straighten up their corrupt practices knowing that all of the secrets could eventually get out to the public.  

    Then there are supporters that were drawn to WikiLeaks by Julian Assange. These supporters wanted someone to idolize and someone to be able to elevate to hero status. When things went wrong with WikiLeaks legally, he was someone that they could portray as a martyr and allow all of their own feelings of victimhood be spilled upon. People need heroes sometimes and idols and victims and all sorts of ways to condemn and demonize things that are beyond their control."
    We all know the fight towards an information free world is a long one, and any reasonable person can see that it may never be won but only kept alive by the continual dedication by those who seek it. I think that people like Emmy are ultimately anti WikiLeaks or freedom of information because like Assange himself she is fighting to CONTROL the information that is discussed about him. This is exactly what corrupt governments do. 

    So many times as anon1984 mentioned above, Assange and his cult following claim that people that do not agree with Assange are anti WikiLeaks or freedom of information. This is wrong. It is wrong in the fact that with all the hard work that dedication staff have done on this forum, for all the reach that has been achieved in this little place on the internet for excellent causes, Assange and his cult want this forum shut down. They want it shut down purely because the forum does not glorify Assange's image and allows people to practice their right to freedom of speech. 

   The rational that Assange and his cult members use is that if you criticize Assange in any way, somehow that equates to ruining the chances of freedom of information for all. They say that as if he is the only avenue for freedom of information to be achieved. Freedom of information did not begin with Assange and will not end with the end of him either. These cult members do NOT support true freedom of information, they only support the image of it being elevated by a glorified hero.
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Re: Anatomy of a Forum Troll - The Story of @greekemmy
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2014, 22:20:42 PM »
I have no opinion on Assange one way or another - based on
1. I do not know him, nor do I care to know him, hence I cannot really comment on his character (only on his behaviour)
2. his guilt or innocence in any conflict of law are to be determined by courts and not to be discussed or decided by the public
3. the idea of WikiLeaks, the organization WikiLeaks and Julian Assange are 3 entirely different things that are to be kept secretly seperate, and the latter has no influence on my opinion of the first two.

That being said, I hope no one takes offense in me asking the following: could anybody explain to me what it means to be "an Assange supporter"? 

The fate of Assange is determined as it is - there are, logically speaking, only 2 ways his story could continue.
1. he stays in the embassy until he dies of old age (or commits suicide).
2. he eventually is forced to leave the embassy by circumstances such as an illness requiring medical attention. He will then be arrested by the British police and will be on trial in Sweden and the UK and will, independently of the outcome of the Swedish case, be punished in the UK for violating the conditions of his bail.

If we assume the second alternative to be more likely, he will be free to do what he pleases after a certain amount of time in prison.

One way or another, these are the two possible ways things could go, and they are predetermined and immutable. So, what are "Assange supporters" doing? There's nothing to be done here, simply because there is nothing that anyone except Assange himself could do anything about. The law does not bend for anyone, it applies to Assange like everyone else and he is now being processed by the judicial system until justice is served. This is not a process anyone could or should influence. That being the case, what actually can anybody do that would qualify as "supporting Assange"?

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Re: Anatomy of a Forum Troll - The Story of @greekemmy
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2014, 22:38:08 PM »
bottom line is that Emila has done nothign to strengthen or support the WikiLeaks community. The damage she has done is unrepairable.

At the moment @greekemmy is using 2 other sock puppet accounts ( @Myoviridae  and @blumo0n ). It's not a coincidence that when Emilia is away, so is @Myovirdae and it is also not a coincidence that when Emilia gets pissed off at the forum ( in this case out Vigil in support of Sea Shepherd ) she re-activates the account and starts ranting and raving.
It is also very amusing to watch Emila pat her self on the back ( as no one else does ) when no one else retweets her psychotic bullshit. Here is a prime example



In a nutshell, EVERYTHING she has tried so far has failed miserably. Beginning from her accusations of " embezzlement " where even Kristinn Hrafnsson slapped her in the face, right up to her complaints to our provider about "spamvertising, she has just failed big time. No wonder Benjamin is trying to get rid of her ;-)

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Re: Anatomy of a Forum Troll - The Story of @greekemmy
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2014, 22:41:29 PM »
I have no opinion on Assange one way or another - based on
1. I do not know him, nor do I care to know him, hence I cannot really comment on his character (only on his behaviour)
2. his guilt or innocence in any conflict of law are to be determined by courts and not to be discussed or decided by the public
3. the idea of WikiLeaks, the organization WikiLeaks and Julian Assange are 3 entirely different things that are to be kept secretly seperate, and the latter has no influence on my opinion of the first two.

That being said, I hope no one takes offense in me asking the following: could anybody explain to me what it means to be "an Assange supporter"?

The fate of Assange is determined as it is - there are, logically speaking, only 2 ways his story could continue.
1. he stays in the embassy until he dies of old age (or commits suicide).
2. he eventually is forced to leave the embassy by circumstances such as an illness requiring medical attention. He will then be arrested by the British police and will be on trial in Sweden and the UK and will, independently of the outcome of the Swedish case, be punished in the UK for violating the conditions of his bail.

If we assume the second alternative to be more likely, he will be free to do what he pleases after a certain amount of time in prison.

One way or another, these are the two possible ways things could go, and they are predetermined and immutable. So, what are "Assange supporters" doing? There's nothing to be done here, simply because there is nothing that anyone except Assange himself could do anything about. The law does not bend for anyone, it applies to Assange like everyone else and he is now being processed by the judicial system until justice is served. This is not a process anyone could or should influence. That being the case, what actually can anybody do that would qualify as "supporting Assange"?

ANSWER: Bake cakes !

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Re: Anatomy of a Forum Troll - The Story of @greekemmy
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2014, 14:34:11 PM »
Seems emmy is in the News ;-)


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Re: Anatomy of a Forum Troll - The Story of @greekemmy
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2014, 16:53:11 PM »
"One way or another, these are the two possible ways things could go, and they are predetermined and immutable. So, what are "Assange supporters" doing? There's nothing to be done here, simply because there is nothing that anyone except Assange himself could do anything about. The law does not bend for anyone, it applies to Assange like everyone else and he is now being processed by the judicial system until justice is served. This is not a process anyone could or should influence. That being the case, what actually can anybody do that would qualify as "supporting Assange"?"

 I am glad you bring up the point. For one thing Assange needs financial support to continue to fight some ongoing legal battles(concerning the financial blockade I believe), to help run WikiLeaks, and to further finance the WikiLeaks Party, and to support himself and staff. So I think it is the protection of his image that is the driving force behind what some of these very radical Assange supporters are doing.

 Assange needs to be viewed by the world as a completely altruistic crusader against corrupt government practices in order to keep the donations coming in. But in recent years, there has been exposed some very seeming corrupt practices of his own, casting doubt on donating supporters. For instance there have been some of the original people that donated to his bail fund that did not agree that he seek asylum instead of going to Sweden and facing the legal battle he has there. There are also many that feel grieved from contributing to the WikiLeaks Party because of the implosion of the party and very pitiful election results.

 Certainly the height of the donations by people to the WikiLeaks organization and party have passed. No one can be sure now whether their donations are going to the support of WikiLeaks in a whistle blower function, or to help Assange with his personal legal issues. These very radical Assange supporters are trying to cling on to an imagine of Assange that is near perfect and promote and fight for it. They believe that they will be able to change the course of Assange's decline and they hang on to a dreamy state of his hero status.

 I am glad you also ask "what actually can anybody do that would qualify as "supporting Assange?" Well Assange himself has pulled the endorsement of his own grass roots Australian support organization WACA, he has pulled the endorsement of this forum quiet a while ago, he has smeared any form of media (movies , books) that criticize him in any way, essentially making the qualifications of being an true Assange supporter in his opinion only people that completely glorify him and promote him as a near god.

 To try and address your question, what qualifies someone as an Assange supporter?, we have to break it down to interpretation. So many times Assange conflates WikiLeaks supporter with Assange supporter. He does this so that if someone goes against him and does not agree with him , then he can paint that person as anti WikiLeaks and furthermore anti freedom of speech or information. When actually the person totally supports those actual ideas and principals, and just disagrees with him. This coercion and intimidation tactic is practiced by his radical supporters like clockwork as is shown in great detail above in the opening post of this thread.

« Last Edit: February 03, 2014, 17:01:40 PM by Riney »
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Re: Anatomy of a Forum Troll - The Story of @greekemmy
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2014, 02:29:09 AM »
We now know that @greekemmy also operates a second Twitter account called @Myoviridae. Sources including @cabledrummer confirmed this a few weeks later.

The Forum was already aware of this issue when @greekemmy tried to register a new account, which we have since activated. Unfortunately,the @Myoviridae twitter account visited the forum at the same time, revealing both accounts are running identical IP's.

Oh well, thats another fine mess you got us into :-P


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