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Offline kimono

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The influence of Freemasonry in the French government
« on: October 03, 2014, 08:24:03 AM »
The late President François Mitterrand (1916-1996) was a suspected member of the Freemasons. His architectural works are a proof of it,
(http://www.philipcoppens.com/axemajeur.html)
even if this subject is not discussed in France.

Today, one wonders what remains of this influence in the current government, as President Francois Hollande for example worked for many years in the government of François Mitterrand :


'The accession of François Mitterrand at the Elysée in 1981 launched the career of Francois Hollande. He became project manager in charge of the Economy and was sent to Corrèze to challenge Jacques Chirac in the parliamentary.'
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And other politicians like Jean-Luc Mélenchon (FDG) also worked in the government of François Mitterrand, although today JL Mélenchon is no longer a socialist. But this change is very recent because Mélenchon was part of the French government as a minister (2000-2002) and has left the socialist party (PS) only in 2008.

In 1987, Mélenchon as a senator even personally managed to impose the candidacy of Mitterrand in front of 2 other socialist candidates. (see this video: http://www.ina.fr/video/PAC01001602)


Mélenchon also admitted publicly being a member of the masonic society, as François Mitterrand was supposed to be.

Mélenchon, the Left Front (FDG) candidate for french presidency, confirms membership in Freemasonry in a biography (jan.2012)

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In 1987, the year JL Mélenchon supported the candidacy of François Mitterrand, Mitterrand once elected received 350 masonic members at the Elysée with a conference on the subject: 'the place of Freemasonry in the world' - title is evocative and it certainly means that Mitterrand owed his election to the masonic members in France.

http://www.ina.fr/video/CAB87018693



Secret societies can have a great influence on politics, but there was never any revelations about it in France.

But in a world of political transparency, these secret societies should no longer exist in governments.
"Les hommes qui ont vécu dans les laboratoires n'imaginent guère que les partis extrêmes" -
"Men who lived in the laboratories can hardly imagine anything else than extreme parties" (Louis Aragon, 1897-1982)

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Re: The influence of Freemasonry in the French government
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2014, 13:18:43 PM »
I began to read it.

1st comment: even they claim all these cults are common, that doesn't mean that you have to protect criminal behavior.
I remember that freemasonry is supposed to protect all its members, even those who are criminals.

Christianity doesn't say that you have to protect criminals...

Maybe there's a link with judaism because freemasonry is using magic symbols and rituals, just like ancient religions.

But there's a difference in the sense and the use of religion, difference between obscurantism and an enlightened mind.

> Freemasons pretend to be "enlightened" and free in their mind, they pretend to be more free and open-minded than those who believe in religions. But freemasonry is quite similar to a religion in its obscurantism, rituals, attempt to censor the mind of the people who don't want to believe in them, obscurantism when they silence crimes, obscurantism when they oppress or kill people who don't agree with them, etc.

Religion - whether catholics, freemasonry, judaism - is just a way people are trying to take control over other people by imposing them to believe in something.
You have the positive use of religion, and the negative use of religion.

The real religion - believing in God as a creation (a common creation for all people)- would be the total absence of any cults, the total absence of secret societies, secret rituals, etc.

Freemasonry - by defending a cult and adopting rituals - are in fact doing the same thing than other religions. They're a kind of religion. They're not letting the people to be free to decide for themselves, they're not giving the people and not giving to their members the freedom to decide by themselves. Trying to impose their point of view and vision of the world.

In that sense, I agree with this article. All these religions and cults have common methods. In a more objective way, you would call this "mind control" or "control of population".
That's what all religions are doing: controlling the crowd.

But controlling the crowd (by spreading various unverified beliefs and stupid rituals) is not freedom of speech and not freedom of conscience. Freemasonry is certainly not defending freedom.
"Les hommes qui ont vécu dans les laboratoires n'imaginent guère que les partis extrêmes" -
"Men who lived in the laboratories can hardly imagine anything else than extreme parties" (Louis Aragon, 1897-1982)