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Discussion - Mexicans more favorable to US intervention?
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Re: Discussion - Mexicans more favorable to US intervention?
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Date    2011-10-31 20:34:23
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it would have to be a mexican owned-and-operated system, with the
americans 'only' providing .... everything

On 10/31/11 1:37 PM, Karen Hooper wrote:

It's for that reason that I think an intervention in Central America is
more viable, but everything I've heard so far including from the US
military is that it's mexico or bust at least for interim involvement.

I don't know necessarily what the middle ground would be. Drone strikes
are obviously one option (fraught with the same issues you point to), as
are surgical strikes by special ops teams.

The other point I think we should keep in mind is that sometimes these
things spin out of control beyond initial political calculations. Just
look at the way that the drug war itself has evolved. This was CERTAINLY
not what Calderon had in mind, but it wasn't entirely unforeseeable,
either.

If the PAN knows it's on the way out... perhaps Calderon would take the
political risk for the potential reward of getting El Chapo's head on a
spike.

Karen Hooper
Latin America Analyst
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STRATFOR
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On 10/31/11 1:30 PM, Adriano Bosoni wrote:

A priori it seems politically unviable for Mexico to tolerate such a
violation of its sovereignty. People may be tired of violence, but as
soon as the first innocent civilian is killed by U.S., the situation
will become a political nightmare for both Mexico and the United
States.

On 10/31/11 1:19 PM, Karen Hooper wrote:

I just wanted to bring the issue of the potential for overt US
action in Mexico to everyone's attention. There has been an uptick
in general reporting lately (and a lot of it is coming from the US
media) about US activities in Mexico and it is at least being
reported that US cooperation across the board is increasing both in
infiltrating and monitoring of Mexican security issues. Carlos heard
on a local Mexican news broadcast this morning people discussing
rather casually the possibility that the US would use drones in
Mexico to not just monitor but also conduct strikes.

Furthermore, the link below shows what I believe to be a truly
remarkable shift in mexican political opinion from 26 percent in
2010 to 38 percent in 2011 in favor of the deployment of US troops
to in Mexico. This isn't a majority, but it's a pretty significant
shift on a very controversial issue.

We've discussed this possibility from a number of different angles
and there are a huge number of challenges, not the least of which is
the vulnerability of US civilian targets to cartel reprisal, and the
extent to which US involvement would be bad for the drug business.
But one of the other indicators that always comes up is public
opinion and the assumption that allowing overt US military action in
Mexico would be a one way ticket to job loss for whichever party
makes that decision.

I think this is something we should consider in the next few months
going forward. With all the indications out of washington telling us
we are going to be seeing more US involvement, the recent
Iran-Mexico-Loco scheme, and an uptick in political favorability
towards US intervention, we could see a shift. If the PAN wants to
stay in power, it's going to have to pull a very big rabbit out of a
very shiny hat, and that may only be possible with outside help.

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: Link U.S. intervention in Mexico
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:31:40 -0500
From: Carlos Lopez Portillo <[email protected]>
To: Karen Hooper <[email protected]>, Victoria Allen
<[email protected]>

http://www.pewglobal.org/2011/08/31/crime-and-drug-cartels-top-concerns-in-mexico/

The link that talks about how the perception of U.S. intervention is
increasing.

--
Carlos Lopez Portillo M.
ADP
STRATFOR
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www.STRATFOR.com

--
Adriano Bosoni - ADP

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/164311_re-discussion-mexicans-more-favorable-to-us-intervention-.html